tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post9083719769559729320..comments2023-03-31T22:37:10.833+08:00Comments on I' Been to Ubuntu: About UbuntuOne -- The Post That is Sure to Piss Someone OffAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-78861940853476957462009-06-06T08:26:27.261+08:002009-06-06T08:26:27.261+08:00On the difference between "Free Software"...On the difference between "Free Software" and "Open Source Software."<br /><br />The term "open source" was coined by Bruce Perens and Eric S. Raymond NOT as a way to set apart two differend software source models, but purely to eliminate the confusion between free as in freedon and free as in beer.<br /><br />It was the frequently irritating and opinionated Richard Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-44973302335383881882009-05-17T17:29:00.000+08:002009-05-17T17:29:00.000+08:00[Although I don't think he or she meant as much by...[Although I don't think he or she meant as much by their comment, but here's the long version for the record. I promise not to meddle with it again since frank discussion should trump trying to get the words just right. I feel it's missing some things, but when you shoot from the hip sometimes you miss...]<br /><br />I'm not sure how well the argument 'OSS companies should do everything OSS' RTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324826132652141724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-41034195746210542872009-05-17T17:12:00.000+08:002009-05-17T17:12:00.000+08:00[My apologies for grossly messing up the comments ...[My apologies for grossly messing up the comments section...let me write a much shorter version of what I was going to put.]<br /><br />If there is revenue to be had in optional, integrated, online storage why should a company that supports FOSS be forced to abandon that revenue by the same community that has no problem letting a non-FOSS supporting company step in and take that revenue stream?<RTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324826132652141724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-70272923622597135522009-05-17T17:04:00.000+08:002009-05-17T17:04:00.000+08:00Refilwe,
I enjoyed what you had to say on the sub...Refilwe,<br /><br />I enjoyed what you had to say on the subject. It's too bad that you chose to delete it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-57388654145294198602009-05-17T17:03:00.000+08:002009-05-17T17:03:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.RTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324826132652141724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-47320302417096447182009-05-17T16:58:00.000+08:002009-05-17T16:58:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.RTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324826132652141724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-38122792729679149902009-05-17T16:56:00.000+08:002009-05-17T16:56:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.RTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06324826132652141724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-68357083603962652922009-05-15T06:06:00.000+08:002009-05-15T06:06:00.000+08:00"Also, Red Hat is just as horrible with their vend..."Also, Red Hat is just as horrible with their vendor lock-in tool they like to call the RHN."<br /><br />RHN source code is publicly available under the name of spacewalk<br /><br />http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/<br /><br />Unlike Canonical. Red Hat does not depend on proprietary software or services in its business. It is a full fledged Free software company and very successful at that. It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-67987950773074475992009-05-14T22:55:00.000+08:002009-05-14T22:55:00.000+08:00@First, to those that bitch about Launchpad and si...@First, to those that bitch about Launchpad and similar being closed source. If you're going to complain about and boycott that, I expect you to complain about and boycott Google as well. Otherwise you're a hypocrite.<br /><br />I was not aware that Google was in any way posing themselves as an "open source company". You? I think you're comparing apples and pitchforks here.zak89noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-25751792385644054942009-05-14T21:42:00.000+08:002009-05-14T21:42:00.000+08:00First, to those that bitch about Launchpad and sim...First, to those that bitch about Launchpad and similar being closed source. If you're going to complain about and boycott that, I expect you to complain about and boycott Google as well. Otherwise you're a hypocrite.<br /><br />Also, Red Hat is just as horrible with their vendor lock-in tool they like to call the RHN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-47049198843253883092009-05-14T18:46:00.000+08:002009-05-14T18:46:00.000+08:00My Apologies, I was mixed up with another service ...My Apologies, I was mixed up with another service at the time. I was just on my way to correct myself.<br /><br />Yes they do have an outright free version of this which is perfectly fine. Granted I still think the Name change would do more to improve the name of Canonical over all. Most "common" users do not realize the correlation of Canonical to Ubuntu. This would be the perfect way to improveKindreds Embracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04584910864867521839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-30434833144621746852009-05-14T18:39:00.000+08:002009-05-14T18:39:00.000+08:00Kindreds,
Canonical offers 2GB free or 10GB for $...Kindreds,<br /><br />Canonical offers 2GB free or 10GB for $10 a month. As far as I know, there is no time limit. It is not a "free trial" service.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-35772624115265181082009-05-14T18:24:00.000+08:002009-05-14T18:24:00.000+08:00I think the biggest Error Canonical is making is a...I think the biggest Error Canonical is making is applying the Ubuntu Label to this Paid Service. Ubuntu the name has come to be the top representative of the Linux community and I find this "Service" to be great but it should be presented as a free component with the option to maybe upgrade to a paid option. I.E. get 5 gigs storage free with this service. then if you want more Say 10 Gig then youKindreds Embracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04584910864867521839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-6265549124720125272009-05-14T17:29:00.000+08:002009-05-14T17:29:00.000+08:00Come on buddy, just because you say "sorry", that ...Come on buddy, just because you say "sorry", that doesn't give you an excuse to pass an insult right after or before.<br /><br />It's the same with this: of-course it's Canonical's business to do whatever they like. I wasn't under any delusion that you had anything to say in the matter. But you still had to take them on over something as silly as this.<br /><br />Next time just stop right after Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12263548900215476529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-20599274370273400192009-05-14T17:10:00.000+08:002009-05-14T17:10:00.000+08:00Matt Casters said...
"It's quite simple: if you wr...Matt Casters said...<br />"It's quite simple: if you write the code, you get to pick the license. Excuse me for stating the obvious but everything else is just plain BS"<br /><br />Did you read to the end of my post where I said "Ultimately, it's Canonical's call and it's their code. They get to license it any way they want to. I still think they're shooting themselves in the foot" or did you Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-73841318256687795792009-05-14T16:50:00.000+08:002009-05-14T16:50:00.000+08:00Are Canonical actually building something from scr...Are Canonical actually building something from scratch here with UbuntuOne?<br />Reading between the lines I thought it sounded more like they intend re-selling an existing service under the banner of UbuntuOne - possibly partnering with DropBox who have an open client for nautilus but closed server software.<br />Sounds a little like what Canonical are offering. Maybe I am wrong.jonnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11001767373580043414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-22758803143312167992009-05-14T16:42:00.000+08:002009-05-14T16:42:00.000+08:00It's quite simple: if you write the code, you get ...It's quite simple: if you write the code, you get to pick the license. Excuse me for stating the obvious but everything else is just plain BS.<br /><br />For every Commercial Open Source Company (COSC) with success (like RedHat, the one you quote) there are probably a bunch of others that didn't succeed. If you think you can decide for a COSC like Canonical what will work, what will not, you'reAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12263548900215476529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-59484901867117696262009-05-14T15:35:00.000+08:002009-05-14T15:35:00.000+08:00Touche! Ultimately, it's because I'm not in the op...Touche! Ultimately, it's because I'm not in the open-source business. I also use Google Apps quite a bit, and it's not open, either. I get the domain and hosting for $10 a year, including Google Apps for the domain, which I use for wikis, file storage, and such. I used to host my own blog and other sites, but Korea is a violent part of the Internet and I spent a number of hours a week going over Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-39848414808808201002009-05-14T15:10:00.000+08:002009-05-14T15:10:00.000+08:00I agree with you completely. But, I must ask: why ...I agree with you completely. But, I must ask: why aren't you using a CMS that is open source?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-99508922619823962009-05-14T14:37:00.000+08:002009-05-14T14:37:00.000+08:00Elliot,
Thanks for visiting my insignificant blog...Elliot,<br /><br />Thanks for visiting my insignificant blog. I appreciate a developer chiming in on this matter (I assume from your post that you are one -- I haven't actually looked you up WRT UbuntuOne).<br /><br />I didn't actually expect to piss off Canonical folks. You guys have thick skin, and that's great. Really, the problem is that I took a Free Software position in this debate, and Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-86205964694193239702009-05-14T11:53:00.000+08:002009-05-14T11:53:00.000+08:00Hi! I can tell you that your blog post doesn't pis...Hi! I can tell you that your blog post doesn't piss me off at all, I'm enjoying reading all the different discussion and analysis of the different decisions that we've made so far with Ubuntu One. Mostly I'm really happy that the service is out in the open now and can be discussed, we worked on it for a while and didn't want to tell anyone about it before they could actually try it out.<br /><br Elliot "statik": Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18348117123450969739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-54630460209441051012009-05-14T11:39:00.000+08:002009-05-14T11:39:00.000+08:00United against,
Thanks for pointing out the typos...United against,<br /><br />Thanks for pointing out the typos. Embarrassingly, I didn't spend any time proofreading the post because it was a fifteen-minute job during a break at work. I always appreciate people pointing out my errors (unlike LifeHacker, which <A HREF="http://lifehacker.com/5236695/sit-up-straight-the-auto+ban-is-here" REL="nofollow">now will ban you for pointing them out</A>. WTFAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-47072948100636047082009-05-14T08:39:00.000+08:002009-05-14T08:39:00.000+08:00I know I am nitpicking but I am sure you meant to ...I know I am nitpicking but I am sure you meant to say that you can stick one and not stick on. You also meant you can't promote instead of You can't promoted. I agree with how can you believe some one that says one thing but does some thing else. Kind of reminds me of the President that we have now.United againsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06076711128580222619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-82032810845034664952009-05-14T08:04:00.000+08:002009-05-14T08:04:00.000+08:00First of all, thanks for the comments. I appreciat...First of all, thanks for the comments. I appreciate a civil debate on this subject.<br /><br />It's true that very few people even mention Dropbox's closed status: that's the reason that I said in the article "Most Ubuntu users aren't aware of the FOSS philosophical arguments, but that doesn't change the business arguments." (WRT that -- OSS is a business philosophy.) Dropbox isn't an open sourceAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17155385927782965826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-117578413372837062.post-43521471720684782532009-05-14T07:54:00.000+08:002009-05-14T07:54:00.000+08:00"It's not necessary to keep either closed, you kno..."It's not necessary to keep either closed, you know. Launchpad offers a great way for teams to work together, but its value isn't in the code as much as it's in the community behind it. Facebook could open its code, too without any worry of someone building a copy. Launchpad links teams and code. Nobody is going to replace it."<br /><br />While I'm not entirely happy about the decisions Canonicalandrewsomethinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00999632476811854024noreply@blogger.com